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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 19, 2007 8:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinion Wanted

How can you quantify that? I know I can't. I can't really be subjective. I mean, I hate to break it to people who love the music but never saw them but I'm not sure if you can totally hear it without never being there can you? To me, it wasn't even until my fourth show that i REALLY got hooked. I loved the tunes don't didn't become one with " it" until four shows in. Where I completely felt as one with the group mind or whatever you want to call it./ All I know is that once that happened it's like it became part of my DNA. I could always hear it and feel it differently after that. There are times I listen now, especially if I have a good buzz ( more power to Wharf Rats and all but the music does take on a different thing when enhanced ), that I can feel it get all up in me but it's still not the same as being there. Too many factors. Not only the thousands of electrified fellow weirdos but the way it sounded tonally. That is one of the reasons I think the band never fully transcends even on live recordings. Just the tone of the instruments on any given hall on any given night.

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Sep 19, 2007 8:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinion Wanted

i've never seen them, wish i was born in 51, not 81, but then again right now i'd be an old fart. to me, the music is all that really matters to me, but i would have loved that owsleyian lsd from back in the day. i can get high, and do, from a dead tape. i still envy the hell out of those who followed them in the 70's and 80's. lucky bastards you. you were all so lucky, whether you realized it at the time or not.

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Poster: Solo Head Date: Sep 19, 2007 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinion Wanted

You expressed my sentiments exactly.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 19, 2007 8:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinion Wanted

cool. I feel sad for people who love the music but never saw them. Even the ones who only saw 94-95 at least got a dose ( no pun intended ) of it I'm sure

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Poster: Solo Head Date: Sep 19, 2007 8:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinion Wanted

Hey Spot, can you give me a % just for the hell of it? I got a BJ from my lady riding on it.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 19, 2007 10:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinion Wanted

Solo - tell me what answer you need to win and I'll make sure to give you the right one : )

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Poster: dstanme Date: Sep 19, 2007 11:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinion Wanted

eleventy six

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Poster: jackstraw86 Date: Sep 19, 2007 2:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinion Wanted

JOTS hit the nail on the head with this comment. I concur whole heartedly. As someone else in the thread said: "It is like looking at a picture unstead of creating one".

But you need a number and I fully understand why. I'd say you're getting about 30% of the picture if you've never seen them live.

Good luck. I hope she swallows!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 19, 2007 2:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinion Wanted

LOL on the last part. Reminds me of one of my favorite jokes. It's a word association game where you name a topic and the other person names a bird that fits the topic

Topic Common answer

America ( Eagle )
Baseball ( Orioles, Blue Jays, Cardinal )
Love ( Dove )
True Love (scroll down for the punchline )
























Swallow

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Poster: Zaorish Date: Sep 19, 2007 9:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinion Wanted

I was born in 1985 and never saw a single show. Though I always liked Skeletons in the Closet, Dick's Picks 4 just fine, I only got hooked after the 4th or so show, just as you said, Johnny. From then on, the Dead has been a ceremonial religious experience for me. I don't know how much of the experience that is, but it seems good to me.

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Poster: Zaorish Date: Sep 19, 2007 9:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinion Wanted

Yeah. To put it in totally secular terms, it's something that you do regularly, that centers you, brings you back to what's really important in life, every week mostly the same, a little different, and also to focus on a different virtue each time. (love, industry, patience, humility, charity, etc)

The other thing about religious experiences, I think, is that they mark the days. You listen to a really rocking Dead concert and you think back to the first time you heard it, or when you were listening to it during some tough times, and you remember who you were, and how you grew. I think that doing prayer groups/worship services is mostly the same thing for me, just more social.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 19, 2007 9:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinion Wanted

that's all that counts right? I consider them a religious experience too, in the good sense. More like spiritual but I'm sure we mean the same thing